Rachel Maddow: Really not clear that youre going to be able to get against the Oath Keepers? Its a real party. He is also the host of the Up with Chris Hayes show which airs on weekends. Offsite Link by Anonymous reply 24 May 21, 2020 12:04 AM They are best friends. Similarly, with the great sedition trial in 1944, which is sort of amazing that they brought it in 1944 --, Chris Hayes: Right, yes, right, right, right --, Rachel Maddow: -- given what happened in 1940 when they tried it against the Christian Front, that trial has gone down in history as a failure or as a sideshow or, in some cases, as a debacle because it wasn't a successful prosecution. Rachel Maddow: Yes, and that's got a whole lot of technical elements to it, like, dont --, Rachel Maddow: -- dont use too many proper nouns that are --, Chris Hayes: -- magicians trick, it really is, like --, Rachel Maddow: -- but you know how to do it. We put it off a million times for COVID, and then we finally did it. Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow don't really get along, do they? Rachel Maddow: I found my way to the story a little bit backwards. Chris Hayes: Having to do with, like, a pro-Nazi --, Doni Holloway: World War II era in America --, Chris Hayes: Yeah. And when you read it, it sends you to Wikipedia because you're like, wait, how much of this is Philip Roth --. Copyright 2023 The Western Journal. Chris Hayes: -- like, Im not doing anything. They go absolutely crazy against the justice department, threaten the justice department, go to the attorney-general, tell him that you fired these prosecutors get rid of this thing, and they do. He transitioned from. Not one of them touched the green pepper he'd cut up for. I try to tell stories for a living. "The Last Word With Lawrence O'Donnell" and "All In With Chris Hayes" were 37th and 38th, respectively. Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) October 4, 2022. You know, and so were like Im playing YouTube clips of Huey Long speeches. But I find it really interesting, so you're along for the ride. Huey Long, of course, was assassinated, which is what put an end to his political career. It requires attention, and Rachel is supremely gifted at paying attention." Maddow's friend and fellow MSNBC host Chris Hayes, who considers her a mentor, compares her to LeBron James. She'll still appear on MSNBC, just not as often. And so you're focused on that name. This was 1939. But they expected to go forward with this armed effort to stop the transfer of power in the United States. Rachel Maddow: It is great. It's an hour --, Chris Hayes: And it's this thing. Rachel Maddow: Yeah. ", I'm like, "No, it's the opposite of crazy. I mean, I brought this for you as a present. Rachel Maddow: This is a booklet about the Christian Front. Chris Hayes: Youre right, its very empowering because I do think that when I come back to this theme of the criminal justice system being ill-equipped, which I think, you know, very much brings us to the present day like, at some level when you look at January 6th and what Donald Trump did, if its not a crime then nothing is --, Chris Hayes: -- in a non-technical and non-legal sense, right, and just like the moral force of the word "crime" like a transgression, a violation of right and wrong in the established order --. Rachel Maddow: Oh, the full pamphlet. But this highly. Actually, it was the right decision. Rachel Maddow joins Chris Hayes to talk about her new podcast, how we can use history to make sense of current events, what it's like to be covering the news in this political moment. Doni, do you remember what you told him? Chris Hayes: As I've been listening to this, I've been thinking about just the rupture that happens with Pearl Harbor. You can have fascist feelings. Rachel Maddow: -- how many Americans are paying attention to him. I'm getting weirdly teary. Rachel Maddow: -- because you have free speech, but you ought to be recognized as a political actor and for the political threat you pose to our system, and there ought to be a response. Rachel Maddow: And he's calling for Christians to boycott Jewish businesses and saying that America, he, as Father Coughlin, takes the path of fascism. Theyre only being persecuted now as payback for all the evil things they have done, social justice. I mean, this is --, Chris Hayes: -- stuff that is top of mind at the time, big news --. Quiz: Photo of Rachel Maddow or Photo of Chris Hayes? Rachel Maddow: A paid agent of Hitler's government working with members of Congress and members of the United States Senate to distribute, literally, propaganda written by the German government targeting the American people in quantity. And the marrying of those two things, a violent threat to overthrow the U.S. government multiple plots along those lines --, Chris Hayes: Hoarding guns, training with those guns and weapons, ordnance, I mean --. I don't know where this is going but, like, what? All Rights Reserved. Rachel Maddow: As his own, yes. And his training is all in the clan, right. The Chris Hayes Podcast" to discuss what she's been up to since dialing back from her nightly cable news show, how she found the story that's told in her new podcast, "Rachel Maddow Presents: Ultra," the editorial and creative process that has followed, and more. As of 2021, Chris Hayes has a net worth of $5 million. I think that our professional, and civic and religious institutions can be strong, but can also be hurt. According to the Daily Beast, Maddow's new contract would allow her more. And thats just always going to be true. Doni Holloway: It was about events of historical significance compared to today. That --, Rachel Maddow: -- like, technical suspense? Rachel Maddow: Like, you and I have talked about this over the years, about how important that is and how you make sure with your staff there's an expectation that nobody is working through the weekend --, Rachel Maddow: -- yes, stuff comes up and there's --. Chris Hayes: And then what you uncover is that, like, prior to Pearl Harbor, there was a huge amount of Nazi sympathy in the United States. Doni Holloway will be checking those and sending me the good ones, screening out anything critical. . Chris Hayes: Howard Stern, yeah. And that's stunning to me. There was a huge amount of, probably, a bigger category of not outright Nazi sympathizers but people who are, like, kind of equivocal about the whole thing. Into America. MSNBC hosts Rachel Maddow and Chris Hayes warned Monday that overturning Roe v. Wade will lead to "South America style" abortion bans. So we start off with the story of the senator who you've never heard of. Rachel Maddow: And so, now she's like, you didn't retire --, Rachel Maddow: -- you changed jobs. So Charles Coughlin, I think everybodys heard of him. Chris Hayes: Well, the thing I was going to say is its hard for good reasons, too, which gets this point of like what liberal democracy is and why we cherish it. Rachel Maddow: And where we get to from that is a Nazi plot --. That's how we got the Foreign Agent Registration Act. Rachel Maddow: Theres no such thing as todays Father Coughlin. In an interview with MSNBC colleague Rachel Maddow, Hayes said that people are increasingly realizing that January 6th, 2021 was actually a "very big thing." "It's just really hard to convict. Rachel Maddow: -- answer whatever e-mails I need to answer that pertain to this evening, and then shutoff and not turn on again until the workday starts again. Chris Hayes: -- because its like, look, well, it turned around in the end. Right. Rachel printed it out from a digital archive for me because the first part of it is all about the anti-semitic menacing that fascist groups were doing in the Bronx in the late 1930s. Um Why is there a swastika behind you on the desk, Chris? Chris Hayes: -- and was arrested and tried for and imprisoned for. So having her name --. Chris Hayes: Hello and welcome to "Why Is This Happening?" "Chris has done an amazing job creating a franchise on weekend mornings," said Phil Griffin, the president of MSNBC. Court actions do not work against this seditious plot involving members of Congress in the Hitler government. J. Edgar Hoover, head of the FBI, announces it. Do you buy the explanation of the presence of the swastika on the desk? Chris Hayes: -- but that creates this constant sense of curiosity. Because these are fascist thugs --. So, but that gets only (ph) --. Rachel Maddow: And if we can't be real and, like, sort of justly calibrated in terms of thinking about American fascism, and American authoritarianism, and indeed American support for Hitler in the leadup to Pearl Harbor, then I think we can't be real and clearsighted about the persistence of those movements over time as the generations have gone on. And the justice department in the wake of Longs assassination sent a prosecutor down to Louisiana basically to go bust up Hue Long machine to root out not only his vestiges of dictatorial power, but also bust all the corruption that he had left behind, which was profound. January 17th, 80 years to the day earlier, January 17th, 1940, the front-page story in every newspaper in the country is about the arrest of 17 members of the Christian Front militia. I feel like there has been real ultraright pro-authoritarian radicalism adjacent to Republican electoral politics for longer than we admitted. Rachel Maddow: -- form fascist organizations even. I feel like this idea that we're dealing with pro-authoritarian impulses on the right as connected to electoral politics, that being some sort of unprecedented challenge, it doesn't feel unprecedented to me. News. It kind of worked and he kind of broke it up. Chris Hayes: And, yes, I think it's a really important thing that I've learned also, like if someone sends an e-mail or sends a note saying, like, the thing you said in the monologue this morning when you were just talking it through, like, isn't quite right, you kind of missed this. Chris Hayes speaks with MSNBC anchor, author and friend Rachel Maddow about her new podcast, "Rachel Maddow Presents: Ultra" and more. In her past career, Shaw clerked in the Supreme Court for. Chris Hayes speaks with MSNBC anchor, author and friend Rachel Maddow about her new podcast, "Rachel Maddow Presents: Ultra" and more. Thats a very compelling story. Rachel Maddow: I think he said, yeah, exactly, yeah. Rachel Maddow: And its like, you know what, Francis Sweeney, you know, I dont know if there ought to be a statue to you, but I definitely want to read a lot more about you and know --. "Rachel Maddow, you've got some explaining to do," Ball said, but Maddow hasn't stopped anti-Trump speculation. And I'm hoping, in some ways, that learning the history of other Americans who've done it well can give us some energy. So there's a little bit of like heartbreak and joy that came when Rachel said that she was going to step away from "The Daily Show" and have "The Rachel Maddow Show" on Monday nights. Chris Hayes: -- like, how is the new life of one night a week of "The Rachel Maddow Show"? Search it up, thats what my kids say. Rachel Maddow: Yes. You could do the whole thing on William Dudley Pelley in the Silver Shirts, which is a crazy story. Chris Hayes: Do you think we have the right antibodies now? The presence of a hate symbol in a picture of two liberals mugging for the camera was too much to ignore. Justice Department caves, fires the prosecutor. Like, wait a second, how does this happen? And in some cases, they were actively supported by the Hitler government as an effort to create a fifth column here that was going to soften us up for a fascist takeover or to have a native takeover here in the United States that would bring in an administration or a form of government that would be more in keeping and more friendly toward Hitlers aims. Chris Hayes: Exactly. Since then, he has written extensively for The Western Journal on the Trump administration as well as foreign policy and military issues. Chris Hayes: Yeah, exactly. Rachel Maddow: And I'm really grateful. He's an unlikely success at MSNBC, coming from the relatively small world of left-wing magazines as an editor of The Nation and a socialist newspaper in Chicago before that. Chris Hayes: -- because its like at some level the comforting story to tell ourselves is that Coughlin is the kind of key instrument or whoever today. Chris Hayes: Well, and it also, I mean, the obvious resonance is here with the current day. Chris Hayes: But, like, where everyone was on Hitler and Nazis in '39, '40s, I guess, what I'm saying, is like a very different thing than where everyone is on Hitler and Nazis in '44. and. "We were children together and now we're grey-haired television anchors,". Rachel Maddow: I just took this long-haul train trip with my family as our family vacation. He served like nine months, wrote Mein Kampf --, Rachel Maddow: -- perfected his ideas of propaganda as being the way to not just seize power but hold power, came out, took him 10 years, and within --. Here's the thing, I'm in this weird thing where it's like I don't want to spoil it, but kind of have to talk about the content of the podcast. And I wonder what you think, what is that curtain about. Chris Hayes: I knew a little bit about the Nuremberg controversy, or not really a controversy but people that objected to Nuremberg. "He's an extraordinary talent and has made a strong connection with our audience." [35] And the demand, I am very obsessed in the notion of like the demand side for fascism as opposed to supply side --. Rachel Maddow graduated from Stanford University, worked as an HIV/AIDS activist, received a Rhodes Scholarship, and earned a doctorate in political science from Oxford. Rachel Maddow: Yeah, hes a great interview --, Rachel Maddow: -- but its a great book. I mean, dont make --. Rachel Maddow: James Comey, right? Before she went live, the White House responded,. Rachel Maddow: -- matters, when having the secretary's name doesn't matter. Chris Hayes: The podcast is called "Rachel Maddow Presents: Ultra." It's the most --. Rachel Maddow: -- who are beating up Jews in neighborhoods in New York. The historical, narrative style pod could hardly be more relevant, as the plot revolves around a sedition trial quite similar to the ongoing Oath Keepers one. And we, in the Bronx, need to figure out how we are going to fight that. ELIJAH SCHAFFER (@ElijahSchaffer) October 5, 2022, Whats going on with the German National Socialist propaganda, Chris? So when Doni, our producer who's here, you guys are very closely held with the details of this, which made sense. Chris Hayes: So here's the thing, so we're going to get in the topic, but what was so striking to me, and this sort of goes back to what I was trying to get at the monologue, there is just this inimitable thing. Gotta to hang with my buddy today, he wrote. By Alex Wagner? Rachel Maddow: Let's take it beyond Ernest Lundeen. January 17th is when they got arrested. Rachel Maddow: A bad guy needing to be opposed by force to save you, your family and all that you hold dear. We are committed to truth and accuracy in all of our journalism. It's like, could we --, Chris Hayes: I want to follow-up on this. MSNBC hosts Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow had a hard time controlling their laughter on Wednesday night over Donald Trump's sheer stupidity. Do you remember what it was like? There were lots of good baseball players. The Huey Long guy who lost the Christian Front trial. And also the theology around tyranny and sedition, being a nuanced thing that Coughlin was very cognizant of and was playing with, even as his followers were being put on trial for sedition for having them what he told them to do. And I just go, "This is what its like to go on vacation.". Rachel Maddow: -- which failed. By MSNBC staff. Rachel Maddow, MSNBC's biggest star, has mentored Hayes, her lead-in at 9 p.m., throughout his time at the network. Rachel Maddow: What did he tell you? It's like, yeah, my job does this, but then there's you, inside. Rachel Maddow: And then you were in local morning radio and working this hard, and then you were working for the ACLU --. Like, over the generations actually, the people who are the worst actors in this ultra-right sphere of American politics are thieves. What was that Howard Stern bit (ph)? If you listen to Bagman, it'll be familiar, but it's also different and new. Back in August, the Hollywood Reporter and the Daily Beast reported that Maddow signed a new multi-year deal with MSNBC. And shes just this devout, young Catholic woman whos disgusted by it, who infiltrates them, starts on newspaper, pressures the police, gets them raided and takes it on herself, and then --. And the next thing they sent him to do was the Christian Front trial --. As reported by the website Vice, the Goodwill of Western New York online store was selling mugs adorned with the swastika, the motto of the SS (My honor is called loyalty), and the face of Adolf Hilter. 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